Ho-Hum...

Jun. 4th, 2004 12:32 pm
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As a Pro-European, with possible Europhile tendencies. (Urrrgh...disgusting creature!) I found this link hilarious.


Wish the UK Independence Party would roll it up and stick it up their arses. They had a party political broadcast on the other day, with voice over by Kilroy-Silk, I say voice-over, I couldn't bear to watch it, since I have a long term dislike of the leather-skinned Kilroy-Silk that spans way before he began spouting racist garbage. I also didn't want to risk possible damage to my eyes by having to view their hideous lemon-yellow and foul-pink logo.
Yes I know, in the interest of true democracy, I ought to watch and listen with an open mind to all party-political propaganda, I mean, broadcasts, before scorning them out of hand, but Kilroy-Silk. No no nooooo!
And what's this about them wheeling out Joan Collins as one of their celebrity supporters? Joan Collins??? Doesn't she live in America? Hasn't she pretty much always lived in America? Of course, I could be wrong, I don't follow her life and "work" but last I heard, she don't actually live in the UK but does have a house in France, and here she is, whining about the lost Britain of her childhood, along with all the others wailing for lost ounces and yards, and cursing the introduction of metres and grams. (What, a thousand millimetres in a metre, and so on? How fecking logical and scientific, we can't have that here! Especially as it was possibly the pesky French that invented it.) Grrrr.

I'm not saying the EU smells of roses, the Brussels/Strazbourg mobile office thing is an utter farce, a ludicrous waste of money and should be stamped out now. But the UKIP piss me off, they smell a little too much like some kind of "acceptable face" of the BNP (pause to snort contemptuously,) for my liking.

Kill All Politicians

Date: 2004-06-04 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazycrone.livejournal.com
I intend to vote 'Respect' out of sheer disgust

Re: Kill All Politicians

Date: 2004-06-05 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
Politicians are rubbish; lying, manipulating, ignorant and self-serving. To honour the spirit of the suffragettes, (if nothing else,)I try and make an effort, but ya can't turn on the news without seeing the fruits of the system and getting very depressed and disillusioned by it all.

Re: Kill All Politicians

Date: 2004-06-05 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazycrone.livejournal.com
Yeah, as an 'immigrant', feel very strongy about using my hard-earned vote,even if it's thrown away making my pointless feeble statement.

"That'll be 3.3234223232 euros please.."

Date: 2004-06-04 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrinsik.livejournal.com
Im sort of anti europe... but for the wrong reasons... i.e. I like the currency as it is and cannot be bothered learning a new one ;)

But seriously I don't really like the idea of some big european power running the whole country. Maybe im not totally clued up on the politics but im guessing this is the one of the outcomes right?

Re: "That'll be 3.3234223232 euros please.."

Date: 2004-06-05 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
I can't say I'm a huge fan of being run by some faceless european power either. There's alot about the EU that is frankly f*cked up. But looking in the long, long term future, (possibly beyond my lifetime) there may well come a time when the UK will have to choose between...
a) Throwing in it's lot with the US, adopting the dollar, and becoming a small fish state of America.
b) Throwing in it's lot with Europe, adopting the Euro, and being a big fish state of Europe.
Uk would probably much prefer option...
c)Resurrecting the Commonwealth and returning to being head Honcho of that. (Unfortunately for UK, no one else seems very keen on option c.)

On a more personal level, it is very hard for me to be anything but pro-European as I am half-French and dual national. My workplaces and collages have also been stuffed full of Europeans and British nationals with European spouses. The result is that "European" has become for me something very mundane and ordinary, rather than the alien and threatening thing that a few British folk, without such contact, (and I consider myself to be British,) find it.
Growing up, my family used to visit France every year, I've become so familiar with it, it feels no more weird to go to France to see my granny than to visit Scotland. Weirdness for me is having to show my passport at the border, I don't need a passport to go to Scotland (though who knows, that may change!) In the same way that Americans don't need a passport to cross state lines, yet different states have their own laws, some are richer than others, some have crazy religions and ideas.
For the most part, I don't really think about it much, 90% of the time I'm not a hugely political person, I'm not a frothing at the gob Europhile, the UK seems safe for the moment from the control of some nincompoop, semi-literate, cock-up elected European President telling us what to do.
(Although, hang on a minute, that sounds awfully familiar!)

Grin!

Date: 2004-06-05 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
Politics is such a dangerous thing to mention on LJ, I'll be sure to make my next post summat fluffy involving herbal tea or the like.
:-)

Re: Grin!

Date: 2004-06-05 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrinsik.livejournal.com
Oh my god how perculiar, im half french also! It's on my mothers side and we have been to france pretty much every year since I was born. What a strange coincidence :)

I like france, though alot of the people there are even colder than here in some cases. I guess it depends where you go however, because people in the south east are generally very welcoming!

Concerning the politics, at the moment I don't really know what to do, since in a way it would be nice to have a rival to america. Then again aren't we just being as bad as them with the whole super power thing?

Re: Grin!

Date: 2004-06-05 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motodraconis.livejournal.com
Cool! Have you checked out the comic bookshops in France? Got any recommendations? I'm fed up with raving about a media-form no one here can appreciate.

As to the politics thang, the hopeless dreamer in me would like to think that the EU block could stand for better trade practices (though it's crazy to hold up EU farming policy as something to be praised, they do take more account of animal welfare than America, though probably just as an excuse to block trade from the US.) A firmer stand on pollution, (again, very flawed.) A touch of calm and fairness in the Middle East, (EU money financed the building of schools and hospitals in Palestine, America financed the missiles that destroyed them.)
This isn't meant to come across as an anti-American rant, but with China and possibly India emerging as rival superpowers, some kind of world balance, mediation power, could be helpful. But this is the foolish idealist speaking.
The realist cynic in me says that if I'm going to be obliged to put up with crap politicians, unsolvable world political problems and bad policies, then at least having some (if flawed and for the large part ignored,) democratic choice in what hopeless politician rules would be better than no say at all.
But that's trying to make the best out of a very bad job. :-(

Re: Grin!

Date: 2004-06-05 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrinsik.livejournal.com
Yes im cynical over politics also, I try not to get to into it because it generally hurts my head thinking about all these things.

Comic shops... well im more into the japanese style comics (manga) what type of comics are you looking for? I find FNAC usually has a decent assortment of comics. There are a few streets in Paris just for animation/comic enthusiasts like yourself, but I can't for the life of me remember the names.

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